Comparing National Championship and Final Four Odds
Rob made a very good point in the comments of yesterday's "Final Four Odds" post:
"I agree that Sportsbook did not really make any assumptions regarding seed. In fact, I think these odds are simple extensions of their odds to win the title...Simply, it looks like they are dividing the odds of winning the title by a factor between 4.5 and 5."This is very true. It is also an awful way to go about creating these Final Four odds. Let's take a look at the Final Four and National Championship odds of the 14 longshots that have F4 odds listed.
The first three columns should be self explanatory (all odds taken from Sportsbook). The final column is their implied odds of winning the title should they reach the Final Four. For example, Indiana is 8:1 (11.1%) to reach San Antonio, and 40:1 (2.4%) to win the title, so their final column is .024/.111, or 22.0%.
For these two sets of odds to be equal, each of these teams would have to have between a 22% and 23.5% chance of winning two F4 games. None of them are even close to that number. Take Purdue, for instance. Let's give them a 30% chance of winning either game in the F4 (this is being generous). That puts them at 9% to win both. If they are 22:1 to reach San Antonio, they should be at least 250:1 to win it all. They are 100:1. You...
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![]() Boston Globe | Loss to Stanford in 2008 Final Four Changed Charles, UConn Forever FanHouse The setting was the aftermath of Connecticut's loss to Stanford in the 2008 Final Four. Coach Geno Auriemma's postgame breakdown saluted the guard and 2010 NCAA Women's Basketball Championship Preview: UConn vs. Stanford Women's Final Four: Stanford Cardinal to get another shot at UConn Huskies in Stanford looking to shock the world in rematch against UConn |
![]() Globe and Mail | Charles adds Naismith award to list of achievements Waterbury Republican American Packing them in: The crowd for Sunday's national semifinals was 25817, the fourth-largest semifinal crowd in NCAA women's Final Four history. UConn Women's Streak Something To Be Celebrated UConn Huskies rip Baylor to run win streak to 77 and advance to the women's Griner gives Baylor a chance to derail UConn |
![]() Globe and Mail | Is Little Butler's big moment NCAA history in the making? USA Today The last time Stevens attended a Final Four was in 2001, in his first season as a Butler assistant. He watched Duke win its third title. Butler's Bulldogs more tenacious than cute, cuddly A Butler win would be one for the books Duking it out: Butler's Graves gets high-profile job of dissecting |
![]() Reuters | Great expectations await Michigan State in 2010-11 Detroit Free Press Izzo crafted his 2008-09 squad to advance to the Final Four in Detroit. The current team, which ended its season Saturday with a 52-50 loss to Butler in the Rites of Spring Offer Lessons for Everyone Butler's cool coach has the Bulldogs running hot Not exactly Cinderella: Butler brings more than an underdog's appeal to |
Duke, KU, San Diego State Top 2010-11 NCAA Basketball Teams to Watch Associated Content Four number one's made the 2008 Final Four. Which one will win it all? I stick with my bracket in this one. NCAA Basketball Rules: Would Your Favorite |
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